For paid subscribers: the backstory (and full audio) of one great call

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For paid subscribers: the backstory (and full audio) of one great call

A conversation with Kristie from Discover, and a few thoughts about AI prompts

Evan Ratliff

Jul 13, 2024

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Hello paid subscribers! Evan here, with a couple more Episode 1 behind-the-scenes goodies for you, as promised. First, here's the full call that one of my AI agents had with a customer service representative from Discover, about an alleged credit card issue. You can hear some slices of it throughout the show. I wanted you to hear the whole call, though,…

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Shell Game

A podcast about things that are not what they seem, hosted by journalist Evan Ratliff. In Season One, that thing is Evan’s voice. By creating a voice clone and hooking it up to an AI chatbot, Evan set out to discover what happens when you try to take control of the very technology that threatens to replace you.

Shell Game was named one of the the best podcasts of 2024 by New York Magazine, a top 10 podcast of 2024 by The Economist, one of the five most insightful podcasts of the summer by The Week, and one of the five best tech and business podcasts of the year by The Information. It's "riveting," says The New Yorker, "awesome" says The Verge, and "slightly terrifying," says The Globe and Mail.

Over the course of six episodes, Evan’s voice agents talk to spammers and scammers, to Evan’s friends and family, to colleagues and sources, to other AIs, and even to a therapist—all to better understand what AI voice is able to do, what it can't yet do, and what to expect from a future in which more and more of the people we encounter in the world aren’t real.

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